dafuge Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ackter said: That got booed in the arena. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 "Well I didn't vote for you." 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 11, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: As much as I sympathize and I agree - the Australians are going about this the best way. This is really not the best time. Republican focus and sentiment really needs to step away from the personal and more onto the progressive, democratic arguments against the Monarchy if it's ever going to win over and persuade those it needs to make change happen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lucas said: As much as I sympathize and I agree - the Australians are going about this the best way. This is really not the best time. Republican focus and sentiment really needs to step away from the personal and more onto the progressive, democratic arguments against the Monarchy if it's ever going to win over and persuade those it needs to make change happen. I mean, that's not really the story here is it? Whether it's the right time or not to express republican views if he's been arrested for expressing that opinion then that is extremely problematic. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Obviously he might have been being a complete dick, but I'd want the bar for arresting someone set really high for something like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 And did they actually arrest him or did they pull him way for being a public nuisance ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 It's what she would have wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ackter said: Severe lack of punctuation on that sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I assume its someone taking the ****, but its impossible to tell in 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, Lucas said: As much as I sympathize and I agree - the Australians are going about this the best way. This is really not the best time. Republican focus and sentiment really needs to step away from the personal and more onto the progressive, democratic arguments against the Monarchy if it's ever going to win over and persuade those it needs to make change happen. Too true Scottish independence will be put on the back burner a bit too, but I'd not put it past the UK government sniffing an opportunity in milking the swing to a ProUK these events have and start goading the SNP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 11, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ginnybob said: I mean, that's not really the story here is it? Whether it's the right time or not to express republican views if he's been arrested for expressing that opinion then that is extremely problematic. It absolutely is problematic, but this is not really a surprise to be rounded up at this time, causing a public disturbance (I'm just presuming that is what he was arrested for). Emotions are running high and there's clearly an establishment move to make things seem as positive for the monarchy as possible. I don't think its fair he has been arrested, and I don't agree with him being arrested, but I can completely see why. Definitely hasn't been helped at all since the Home Office have done so much to try and clamp down on protesting in public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: Too true Scottish independence will be put on the back burner a bit too, but I'd not put it past the UK government sniffing an opportunity in milking the swing to a ProUK these events have and start goading the SNP. Andrew <exists> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 11, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2022 Very good thread, hard to disagree and I think he made some valid and fair points about the institution, and the political attachment the Tories are trying to make with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw072 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ginnybob said: I mean, that's not really the story here is it? Whether it's the right time or not to express republican views if he's been arrested for expressing that opinion then that is extremely problematic. I'm guessing there's probably more to the story than he's portraying. It really depends how he expressed his views and there's no mention as to what was happening, so i'd wait and see if any more news of the situation comes out from different sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 This doesn't look great...... thoughts, gentlemen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Hopefully other former colonies will do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: This doesn't look great...... thoughts, gentlemen? Andrew may be dodgy but that's his daughter who was (According to reports) upset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) Pretty sure thats still not a valid reason to run your hand over her arse their Oche Edited September 11, 2022 by Bagpuss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: Pretty sure thats still not a valid reason to run your hand over her arse their Oche Maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Andrew may be dodgy but that's his daughter who was (According to reports) upset. If my dad grabbed my arse I'd be upset too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Lucas said: Very good thread, hard to disagree and I think he made some valid and fair points about the institution, and the political attachment the Tories are trying to make with this. Frankie Boyle also managed to express some of this in brief 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 I think people are overreacting to the Prince Andrew thing. That's his daughter. I can see why people why people would feel it is inappropriate regardless of what we know about him. However, sometimes moments captured on camera can look worse than how they are in reality. Do people really think he's going to feel up his own daughter in front of the worlds cameras? What's more likely is that he's tried to keep hold of her, comforting her while he bends down and has not realised whats happening as he's doing so. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I mean, he did stroke her arse a bit in the typical creep way. Not saying he creeped on his daughter, just that he's such a creep he doesn't know any other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Savile used to cop a feel all the time on camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: I think people are overreacting to the Prince Andrew thing. That's his daughter. I can see why people why people would feel it is inappropriate regardless of what we know about him. However, sometimes moments captured on camera can look worse than how they are in reality. Do people really think he's going to feel up his own daughter in front of the worlds cameras? What's more likely is that he's tried to keep hold of her, comforting her while he bends down and has not realised whats happening as he's doing so. I would never dream of touching my daughter in that way, even if I were consoling her. It looks unsettling, regardless of his past 'history'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Ffs Andrew. Don’t be a creep. Just stick to the toe sucking like Paul Scholes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 At least she dodged that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Lucas said: It absolutely is problematic, but this is not really a surprise to be rounded up at this time, causing a public disturbance (I'm just presuming that is what he was arrested for). Emotions are running high and there's clearly an establishment move to make things seem as positive for the monarchy as possible. I don't think its fair he has been arrested, and I don't agree with him being arrested, but I can completely see why. Definitely hasn't been helped at all since the Home Office have done so much to try and clamp down on protesting in public. Don't know if he's been arrested for his ''own safety'', perhaps he can't tell the difference between twitter and outside. If you're going to be topical in opposition to the Monarchy don't do it this weekend or next in public surrounded by Monarchists. ''Freedom Of Speech'' won't protect you from a smack in the mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, oche balboa said: Andrew may be dodgy but that's his daughter who was (According to reports) upset. Wouldn't you be if your dad groped your arse? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: I think people are overreacting to the Prince Andrew thing. That's his daughter. I can see why people why people would feel it is inappropriate regardless of what we know about him. However, sometimes moments captured on camera can look worse than how they are in reality. Do people really think he's going to feel up his own daughter in front of the worlds cameras? What's more likely is that he's tried to keep hold of her, comforting her while he bends down and has not realised whats happening as he's doing so. If he hadn't bought the silence of a girl, he met via a convicted sex trafficker then nothing would have been said, being thought of as a Paedo and a bullshitter does open you up to all sorts of accusations 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said: At least she dodged that He did advise but it was lost in the endless codswallop he spouts, if 18-year-olds can't make head nor tail of his speeches what chance has a 96-year-old got? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Obviously he might have been being a complete dick, but I'd want the bar for arresting someone set really high for something like this. FWIW I was probably within earshot of this. My mate said he heard someone being shushed by the crowd for shouting something but I didn't. So he wasn't exactly Steve Bray megaphone loud tbh a bit more shouting would have improved the speeches significantly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Lucas said: Very good thread, hard to disagree and I think he made some valid and fair points about the institution, and the political attachment the Tories are trying to make with this. So annoying the government are just stopping work. And it’s not like Labour can argue let’s get back in the commons, because they will get slaughtered. Going to be even more sickening this week seeing Liz in all the promo and photo opps, with the Tories then sprouting how they’re the symbol of the UK etc. just even more free propaganda for them after a month of them plastered all over the news for their leadership debate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Prince Andrew is a creep, whether this video is taken out of context or not isn't really relevant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw13 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: Don't know if he's been arrested for his ''own safety'', perhaps he can't tell the difference between twitter and outside. If you're going to be topical in opposition to the Monarchy don't do it this weekend or next in public surrounded by Monarchists. ''Freedom Of Speech'' won't protect you from a smack in the mouth. I thought there must be more to it then what he put on twitter. Probably not the best idea to start shouting against the monarchy amongst people who clearly like the the royal family and grieving with high emotions. It would be like to going to a football derby match, sitting in the home sides stand, shouting support for the away side and then complaining on twitter when the police take you away for your own safety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: Wouldn't you be if your dad groped your arse? Upset before hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Upset before hand. As well as during and post hand too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, oche balboa said: Upset before hand. Don't know what he'd done earlier might explain the tears though as the Royals aren't known for being compassionate for each other's emotions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Jair Bolsonaro will attend Elizabeth II’s funeral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Lucas said: Very good thread, hard to disagree and I think he made some valid and fair points about the institution, and the political attachment the Tories are trying to make with this. Thanks for sharing, found it a good read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 12, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2022 Yeah me too. The 24/7 nature of the news about her death, and most of the news just asking subjects who are they and where they’ve come from and why are they there is far too much. So much going on just not being reported and we’ve not had a government really since June. Having said that I’m not surprised at all this. Had a taste of it with Phillip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 bbc should be impartial, expecting 10 days of republican advocacy after next monday 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 hours ago, PMLF said: Jair Bolsonaro will attend Elizabeth II’s funeral. Aren't most leaders going to attend this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Aren't most leaders going to attend this It's likely, but this is just confirmation from Brazil that the Brazilian President is attending? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Lucas said: Very good thread, hard to disagree and I think he made some valid and fair points about the institution, and the political attachment the Tories are trying to make with this. Sorry to be that bore again, but Truss isn't going to be accompanying King Charles on his tour, she's just attending some of the services - sounds like it might have been a misquote/misunderstanding. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/liz-truss-not-accompanying-king-charles-on-uk-tour-says-no-10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Rob1981 said: I’m trying not to bite every time BG posts something inane from his social media. But I genuinely can’t see what we’re supposed to be outraged by there. He’s literally just asking someone off camera to move the ink well so he doesn’t knock it off the table with his arm when he signs the document. The second clip he is even masking a smile about it. Hardly the act of a tyrant. Given the way we have traditions in this country I have no doubt he would have happily moved it himself. However, someone, somewhere has been given the role to clear the table no doubt as they have throughout history. So to do so would take that away from them even if it is archaic and a bit silly. His first act should be to get a bigger desk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 not confirmed but it looks like games will happen this weekend but just not in London due to obvious reasons, Spurs V Leicester probably at risk, maybe Brentford's home game as well V Arsenal Brighton V Palace is off due to rail strikes which don't exist any more so I've no idea what's going on with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Wonder if London games will be allowed if away fans are banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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