EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Story still developing but pretty shocking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomyorkessoul Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This is massive. He was the main soccer journalist here in the US. Heads need to roll for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 RIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Spanish language press full of claims that his brother said he may have been murdered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, PMLF said: Spanish language press full of claims that his brother said he may have been murdered. Yeah that's in the second tweet I posted. Too early for me to speculate, but RIP either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomyorkessoul Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This needs to be the end of FIFA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCanuck Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This was his last reporting. I mean... ya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 **** man I thought it was a windup when I saw this at first on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Been ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Speculating at this stage about murder is stupid but this is nonetheless big news, he is probably the only American football journalist I could name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 RIP. But also, Qatar have a lot of black marks against them sure, but suggesting they’ve murdered a prominent journalist in plain sight at one of the biggest events in the world for wearing a rainbow is insanity ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted December 10, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Weezer said: But also, Qatar have a lot of black marks against them sure, but suggesting they’ve murdered a prominent journalist in plain sight at one of the biggest events in the world for wearing a rainbow is insanity ffs. This sounds ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomyorkessoul Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Yeah, really not sure why Qatar are being given the benefit of the doubt here. Occam's Razor and all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lucas said: This sounds ignorant. And speculating about the murder of a man that was already unwell is mad. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted December 10, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Weezer said: And speculating about the murder of a man that was already unwell is mad. I didn't say it wasn't? But suggesting that they wouldn't murder someone over something they consider to be a capital crime, is definitely ignorant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 His wife (Céline Gounder) is a high profile medical professional and was in Biden's transition COVID team. If there's anything dodgy we will know sooner than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, thomyorkessoul said: Yeah, really not sure why Qatar are being given the benefit of the doubt here. Occam's Razor and all. If it's Occam's razor, which other westerners have been murdered by the Qatari state? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lucas said: I didn't say it wasn't? But suggesting that they wouldn't murder someone over something they consider to be a capital crime, is definitely ignorant. The ignorance is to assume that Qatar is so evil/dumb that they’d murder a high profile, foreign journalist for such a minor incident at the biggest event in the history of their country. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Such grim news he was absolutely brilliant. The speculation around his death is ****ed, especially since we know little yet. Perhaps wait till we get some information? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted December 10, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 10, 2022 Is it an assumption, or a suggestion? They are two separate things. Big difference, too. I was not assuming anything. I was making the very plain suggestion that it's not out of the question, since, you know, homosexuality is illegal in Qatar and they've imprisoned people for much less. Let's see what officially comes out, first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I don’t think it’s insane for people to speculate that something dodgy happened when his own brother is saying he believes that’s what happened. Would be one thing if he’d died and people were speculating that, but his brother has said he received death threats and believe that’s what happened. Clearly wasn’t feeling well and not much merit in speculating but I think questions will have to be asked by American authorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Poisoning then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 His brother reacting like this through grief is one thing, but really we ought to wait a little bit before we actually do similar. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This is terrible. And even more morbid as he was tweeting during the Netherlands/Argentina game, his last tweet being about the equaliser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Tyler looking really shaken 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Away from the speculation of the manner of his death it’s easy to forget how shocking and sad it is for somebody so young to just drop dead like that 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 According to ESPN Wahl mentioned that he was diagnosed with bronchitis earlier in the tournament. Unless they missed some totally different, bronchitis is a very unusual thing to suddenly die from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 What the hell!? Always seemed well informed and knowledgeable. RIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 More about Wahl here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Never heard of him but this is really shocking news. I hope we find out soon what actually happened. also, cut Weezer some slack. He's in Qatar right now. Can't be badmouthing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 nice touch there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: Never heard of him but this is really shocking news. I hope we find out soon what actually happened. also, cut Weezer some slack. He's in Qatar right now. Can't be badmouthing them. Thank you Man City fan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Weezer said: Thank you Man City fan Get home safe then you can give us your real thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I for one welcome our new Qatari overlords. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Short tribute to him in the stadium Edited December 10, 2022 by Weezer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Horrible news. Far too soon to speculate foul play but it’s obvious as to why many might Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Terrible news. Such a terrific journalist and person. Shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunkerossian Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) TBH, it could be COVID. The organizers wouldn't want COVID panic over an outbreak, or stringent measures, since the WC is already unpopular. Edited December 11, 2022 by Bunkerossian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahzun_Savas Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Very sad that someone that young has died. It seems like he died at the ground during the Argentina - Netherlands game which to me makes it less likely he was killed like his brother is saying happened. But it is not impossible that he was killed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Three dead journalists in Qatar so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Ok, has this happened at previous tournaments or is Qatar just over scrutinised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I'm sure I read that 2 died in Brazil, but no source on that or anything. I don't imagine it's hugely unusual, although it would depend on each case. You're all gathered in one place, presumably a fairly stressful schedule, climate you're potentially not used to. Tragic, obviously. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw072 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, forameuss said: I'm sure I read that 2 died in Brazil, but no source on that or anything. I don't imagine it's hugely unusual, although it would depend on each case. You're all gathered in one place, presumably a fairly stressful schedule, climate you're potentially not used to. Tragic, obviously. I can't remember her name off the top of my head but one of the ex SKY presenters fell ill in Brazil and was on life support for a while. Thankfully she recovered. Things like this do happen unfortunately, especially when you have a mix of travel, stress, illness etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Failey Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Security guard fell to his death at the Netherlands/Argentina game too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Can't imagine doing TV interviews so soon after something like this! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I wonder if air travel and different climates can cause conditions like this to worsen, seems strange how 3 have died and its happened at other World Cups also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: I wonder if air travel and different climates can cause conditions like this to worsen, seems strange how 3 have died and its happened at other World Cups also Also to be blunt, questions have to be asked about quality of healthcare. Big influx of people, were the systems coping? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: The unknown ticking time bomb. That's unfortunate. At least no discussion about foul play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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