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Just tested the 23.2 database in Belgium. Nothing changed, most of the team deep in red after a few months/season(s).

Most of the players from youth intakes ask full time (high) contracts etc, high setup costs , high staff wages, high ground maintenance

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On 29/11/2022 at 14:41, glennuk said:

Suggestions Please!

Struggling to really get into a save. Really wanted to do Indonesia, but the bugs make that hard.
Started in Germany, but not really feeling it.
Could do England again and I am sure I will enjoy it, but it takes forever (especially for me) AND I completed the challenge once....in England.

My biggest don't want is financial issues to a crazy extent (EG: Belgium).

 

Any Suggestions?

 

Indonesian registration window dates now match the transfer window

 

Wow I really didn't think they would fix this.

Now whether to restart my Indo save or not, haven't posted but half way into season 2

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Probably that's going to be the last season here. Veterans can't keep this level anymore, youngsters are progressing but not good enough yet :( We are predicted last of course, but not sure if the board would keep me in the club after relegation.

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37 minutes ago, Koetzer said:

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Probably that's going to be the last season here. Veterans can't keep this level anymore, youngsters are progressing but not good enough yet :( We are predicted last of course, but not sure if the board would keep me in the club after relegation.

Let's hope you can still turn it around! How does your best youngsters look like right now?

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Season 4 (2026)

Finished 8th, which is a couple of places below last year. But fairly pleased - introduced 3 15/16 year olds into the team, including the GK, and was expecting to struggle. Kolsvik also signed a new contract which probably gave a biog boost and he ended up top joint scorer and joint top on assists.

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Youth Graduates:

Preben Mahamed

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15 year old GK was promoted to first choice, improved a little, but really hoping for a 2/3 season development time until he is closer to first team quality

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Samuel Luhovy

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15 year old CB, introduced for some games and made some progress on stats.

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Trym Rosendal Nyhagen

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16 year old CM, had several starts and gradual improvement, probably one of the most promising.

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Erling Rangoy Holte

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Joint top for assists and developed well in first season.

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Kristian Aadland

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Already an important player at 18, need him to kick on his development to really do well at this level though, only 2 goals in 20 odd games

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Top Scorer Magnus Solum is now 34 so will likely be 2nd choice next season. Finances are pretty bad (£350k in debt) so probably need a promotion soon so I can improve income!

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Not done a youth challenge before so here goes ....

I can't imagine I'll be manager for too long given the initial squad of 15 was soon whittled down to 12 after 3 players departed.  A quick peek into my U21 squad reveals just the one player, a somewhat poor quality 16 year old.  Nothing in my U18s.

So I'll be running this with 12 adults, 1 youngling and the rest of my bench made up of greys. 

 

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2030/31 Midseason Review:

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We're not getting crushed, but we're not doing very well. If we can't finish at 10th (11 & 12 do not receive prize money - I can't deal with another no prize money + relegation season lol) when the split comes after 22 matches then I'm pausing this for something else. Blew a 2-0 lead over the last place team the final match before the winter break so I'm not super confident of getting there even though there's not a lot of points to make up. 

Intake Preview:

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Stronger looking than the last one. For a team not good enough to win there's not a huge depth hole, so really I just want one of the A rated players to come in as a superstar. Something to push the team forward now.

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Ok that's it confirmed.

If you want to keep your best players in European leagues DON'T add the top league from the big 5, I've pretty much destroyed my save in one transfer windows as I've lost 4 first team players (3 for minimum fees and one who was leaving in 2 years anyway so he wasn't happy).

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I now have £114m in the bank but my first team is decimated.

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FWIW, I just went through all the u21 squads that are in the U23 PDL and there are a couple of clubs that have been in L1 & in the U23 league for a while and have a youth level of 2. That  gives me hope that we might get lucky in the next couple of seasons and get invited as well.

 

On 30/11/2022 at 02:08, XaW said:

The youth leagues are based on a youth level, but also a "first come, first serve". So what you can do is get the youth level up to 1, and then just wait. You have to wait until another team either withdraws their youth team (as you can do when you are asked if you want to join the league every season), or have their youth level reduced. Then you will be asked to join if you are the best candidate. In FM20, I think my team joined after 4 or 5 seasons at youth level 1, but this is from the top of my head, so don't quote me on it. Still, those are the requirements, max youth level, then chance.

Edit: Also, in FM23 this should be easier, based on this:

Source: https://fmfc.footballmanager.com/blog/more-new-features-elevate-your-fm23-experience

 

On 30/11/2022 at 03:42, fries said:

Yes I agree. It was just to tell @Deicide and others that they could risk to wait many years before joining a league.

I expect it to be easier in FM23 too.

 

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58 minutes ago, fries said:

South Shields F.C. - Wikipedia

Championship

2031/32 (season 9)

Season Summary

We did it! We are in the Premier League! We played okay in the first half of the season. But after New Year we only lost two games, the 1st of January and a stupid 5-0 defeat against West Brom. A young striker stepped up and scored 19 goals in 13 games in January, February, and Marts.

We also had two good Cup runs. In the Carabao Cup we lost to Stoke in the Quarter Final. In the FA Cup we won against Spurs, but lost to Chelsea in the next match.

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My players have continued to develop very well and we have never had so much depth as now. We have good players in most positions except at the fullbacks.

 

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My best players:

Patrick Walters (the two Walters players are unfortunately not related) is my best player and performed well with 16 goals and 14 assists. He has been with me since Vanarama North

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Glover is another important player on the DM position:

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Zerrouki has developed into a very great goalkeeper. I think he is ready for the Premier League!

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N'Guessan is my best defender. I play him as a DC.

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I had 2 players on the NXGN list.

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Smith is a star player and number 6 on the NXGN list. He is currently wanted by 17 (!) Premier League Clubs and he currently have a release clause for higher divisions. I really hope I can keep him untill we officially are regarded a Premier League club.

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Toby Walters stepped up as a striker in 2032. He scored 19 goals in the 13 matches in the first 3 months of the year. Well done for a striker with relatively low finishing and composure.

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Before the season Toby Walters was number 2 in the Golden Boot award at the Euro U21.

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The youth intake preview looked very disappointing. Only 3 stars. But a top prospect in the CM.
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The intake was as expected. A great player for the CM. But I really hope mu top talents will step up this year.
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The transfer of significance this season was the sale of McDermott. McDermott was my young backup keeper. I did not think he was talented enough to break into the first team so I accepted a bid for him.

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Finances and Upgrades
Before the season the board announced that they will increase the youth level. I hope it will be done after this season. We will also soon move into our new almost 15.000 seater stadium. Just in time for Premier League football!

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Next season
Next season, I hope to keep my best players. And hopefully, it will be enough to avoid relegation.

Hell of an effort with that one, amazing players and amazing results! I am still in the North after 12 seasons :) where did I go wrong!!

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Season 5 (2027)

A slight improvement on last season with a 7th placed finish.

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Another bad/slow start left me lagging behind, hoping next season I can keep hold of my better players and push upwards. Had to turn down bids and extend contracts to keep my main players.

Kristian Aadland

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Scoring is slightly deceptive as he scored 4 in the first game of the season. Currently worth up to £60k and can probably go beyond that, so if I can get near to £100k and a sell on clause then may have to shift him on. 

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Trym Rosendal Nyhagen

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Had to turn down offers again. Probably a year or two before he dominates. Need to try and retain these players before the board sell them against my wishes.

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Sami-Daniel Overhaug

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Didn't have a good first season with a 3 month injury lay off and onbly scored a couple

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Samuel Luhovy

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English CB, pretty dominant in the air, gradually improving.

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The finances are a big issue as I can't improve training facilities until something miraculous happens! Lots of cash injections!

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Pretty steady mid-table progress lol :D 

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For you guys playing it on England, is it normal for the U21 team to not be invite to any leagues? It's also the second season in which I delegated the "arrange fixtures" responsibility to the U21 manager and he never does it...

 

Well, nevermind, a quick search on the bug tracker show that this is happening everywhere.

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Over two FM versions this is my third run in Switzerland and I just can't advance past a yoyo team. Finishing 11th there means $0 prize money. 10th would have been $2.36. We're in the red without that, which means as we're likely to go back down no more upgrades and will struggle to keep any players that could develop into players good enough to break through. I'm not killing the save, but I need a break from it. I will look for a country I've never played in and go there.

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10 hours ago, thomas_e said:

Energie Cottbus – Wikipedia

FC Energie Cottbus

Season Summary 2030 - 2031

A consecutive top 4 finish and a fantastic CL debut

 

Our first season in the Champions League, meaning that it was the first season when my squad depth was truly put to the test! It was also yet another season that we integrated a couple more youngsters into the first team. Our youngsters keep on improving after being promoted from the U19's and it makes me quite optimistic about the future! I am a little bit worried about a lack of quality at centre back and we dont have anyone in the U19 that will become Bundesliga quality at the moment, so fingers crossed for the next youth intake! 

We played really good this year, but I had to make quite a few tweaks after the update. The match engine has drastically changed after the update, and even though it's not great at all, it's at least a bit more unpredictable. No more long balls from the GK over a confused defense. 

The season didn't really include a lot of ups and downs in the league, we played pretty well overall, but the general theme is that we are really good against the weaker teams, but struggle against the top sides. Nothing dramatic about this obviously, but we need to step up our game against the big guns if we want to fight for the Bundesliga title! 

In the Champions League we performed way better than my expectations. We beat Juventus, Sporting, Lyon, Apoel, Club Brugge and Chelsea, played 0-0 against Villareal and lost to Liverpool in the league phase. This put us in the top 8 and directly qualified to the last 16. Amazing! We met Barcelona in the first round and as expected that was the end of our journey. We lost 5-2 on aggregate, which was fine. We were never going to win and this was a great experience for our young team! 

I didn't expect us to finish top 4 this season considering that we were playing in the CL for the first time. A really great season overall and hopefully we can improve even more next year! 

The youth intake was pretty good. We got a good GK which can prove very important. Our star GK, Dittloff, has three years left on his contract and he ain't renewing it! 

 

Season Summary

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Key Players

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Youth Intake

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Hey man I'm curious do you load any other leagues for your saves or just the nation you playing in?

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9 hours ago, v1n1akabozo said:

For you guys playing it on England, is it normal for the U21 team to not be invite to any leagues? It's also the second season in which I delegated the "arrange fixtures" responsibility to the U21 manager and he never does it...

 

Well, nevermind, a quick search on the bug tracker show that this is happening everywhere.

I think my U21 team joined a league in the 2028/29 season.

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2 hours ago, dylan.gangat said:

 

Hey man I'm curious do you load any other leagues for your saves or just the nation you playing in?

When I start I usually only load the nation that I'm playing in since it's so easy to load new leagues as you go along. 

When I get to the point that I can compete in the CL I usually load a few more leagues. Say if I'm playing in Germany I would load up Premier League, Serie A, Ligue 1 and La Liga. This season I have done it a bit different and focused a bit more on the nations that I have affiliate clubs in. I'm not good enough to win the CL yet, far from it, and FM23 is so bad when it comes to loans I had to focus my league selection around that.

Getting affiliate clubs have been a lot of work, with many re-negotiations of the deals so I can use the clubs for for loaning out players and getting youngsters through to our academy. I believe that loaning out players to visible/playable leagues is a lot more efficient and provides better player development. 

 

These are my affiliate clubs as of 2031. All the leagues are playable except for the Australian A-league and I have added the leagues as soon as I've gotten the agreement with the club. Unfortunately Heidenheim got relegated last year so I no longer have a 2nd Bundesliga affiliate club. When this happened I terminated an agreement with a very bad Polish club, hoping that the board will allow me to add another affiliate club as soon as possible. With all these clubs I have either gotten the cooperation based on a loan-agreement or an academy recruitment deal. I then re-negotiate the deal after a few months, adding a loan agreement or an academy agreement to our existing deal. 

These agreements have obvious advantages, especially as it helps with the core of this challenge, better players through the academy, but it also helps a great deal with loan deals, a part of the game that I honestly feel is broken. You can sometimes have a fantastic 19 year old in your team, he wants a loan deal and no club at all wants to loan him. This helps with that and in my save I am now on July 8th and I have all my loan deals settled. A couple of players went to random 2nd Bundesliga clubs, some went to 3.liga and my best 19 year olds went to OH Leuven in the top Belgium division. When choosing affiliate clubs it's important to look at  training facilities as well as youth recruitment and junior coaches! 

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Quick question I hope someone can help me with:

My team doesn't have a controllable u18 squad that I can staff, and train only a B team, but it has players in a u18 squad that I can promote to the senior team? What's going on!?

 

So this guy is in my u18's, I can promote him, offer him a new contract, but I can't access the u18 squad and appoint staff?

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If you look on the squad filter on the right, only senior and B teams are available?

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